Our neighbor to the south and USS Arizona survivor, Donald G Stratton has passed away.  97 years is a hell of a run.  Mr. Stratton was one of the last three remaining USS Arizona survivors alive.  Fair winds and following seas.

Thanks to everyone who came out to the meeting today.

What I thought was going to be a quick build kit of the submarine MS Surcouf didn't quite work out that way.  But I'm glad I chose the path I took as it turned out to be an enjoyable and interesting build.  I hope one of these research vessels finds this boat so they can figure out what exactly happened to her.

Some follow up items from the discussion...

The video I found with information on this submarine was on the YouTube Drachinifel channel.  They have a huge number of videos on ships ranging from the Civil War to present, and examples from countries around the world.  They were done to support the online gaming, particularly World of Warships.  It's a great reference for us modelers.

Ship video series

The modeling video I showed today is from AK Interactive.  They now market it along with some of their weathering fluids.  It's called Ship Weathering Sets.  It's available from many places that sell AK Interactive.  There are two published volumes in this series.

The oil paint I used is from a company called Abteilung502.  These are high quality oil paints designed for modelers like ourselves.  Here's a link to the Abteilung502 web site.  You can find these from a number of different online locations.  Some that I found are...
Michigan Toy Soldier
Last Cavalry
Megahobby
Internet Hobbies
Hobby World (Great source for paint)


You can also find it on eBay and Amazon.  The great thing about oils is that they will last a lifetime.

The chipping fluid is from AK Interactive.  They call it Worn Effects Acrylic Fluid.  It can be found from anyone who sells AK Interactive products.  There are two varieties.  The type is used is called Worn Effects and the other option is Heavy Chipping Fluid.  Here's a link from Hobby World.  But search around for your best option.

The kit itself is from Hobby Boss.  It is 1/350 scale.  It is a very generic version of the actual boat.  It provides the parts for when she was first built in the 30's to when she was lost in February of 1942.  Parts are very plain with not much detail.  However the hull and deck are well done.  The kit comes with photo etch parts for railings.  Other kits available are from Heller in 1/400 scale and Pit Road released a kit in 2008 which is much more detailed.  It is also impossible to find.  

Hopefully somebody will find this missing sub.  Here is where it was last believed to be located.  Maybe Jerry will keep an eye out for her during his cruise.  I spoke with Jerry and he'll be watching for her.  

I also brought some of the new Dspiae tweezers.  I think most of you that tried these agreed that they have an excellent touch.  They also have a nice flat end with just the right angle.  They are the first set I reach for these days.  They are available with thin tip and flat tip.  They sell for about $10 each delivered.  The best place to find them is on eBay.  

Martin brought a great little tool marketed by AK Interactive sold as a Glass Fibre Pencil.  I've seen these marketed as Fiberglass Erasers as well.  The AK video shows it mostly for cleaning and softly shaving away blemishes.  However it is very good for weathering.  I've had one in my tool box for over 40 years!  Yikes!  You can find these from Colpar, companies that sell AK Interactive, and sold under different names on Amazon and eBay.  They also come with different materials such as steel.  

Bill Smallshaw brought in his MGB 77 from Coastal Craft.  Martin Blundell in the UK owns this company.  He's best known for his resin kits of British coastal boats in 1/72 scale.  They take a little work but as you can see out of the box you get excellent results.  He also sells figures for these kits.  Martin's web site is off line at the moment as he is in the process of rebuilding it.  I do have a copy of his catalog.  If you're interested let me know and I'll send it to you by email.  

Here are some examples of some kits Martin has for sale.

HMS Kent / Aoshima Models

HMS Royal Scotsman /AJM MODELS

And of course John did not disappoint.  John shared with us his 1/700 builds of the HMS Kent and HMS Royal Scotsman.  John reports that Aoshima has released a number of cruisers recently.  The Royal Scotsman is very unique with the landing craft.  Both very nice and unique models.  Thanks John!

See you next time!

Dave

Some sad news in the model ship world.  The owner of L'Arsenal has passed and they are not accepting new orders, and current orders may be delayed or not filled.  It's difficult to say if L'Arsenal will continue with another owner.  I tried to pass on condolences but my message was returned undelivered.  The message came from Melaine.
Dave

Greetings all,
Our next meeting is coming up on Saturday, February 1st.
Meeting Location:  Rockler Woodworking (in the basement)
2553 S. Colorado Blvd., Suite 108
Denver, Colorado  80222
Date:  February 1, 2020
Time:  10:00

I've been working on my project to clear my workbench of unfinished models.  I'm currently finishing up the French Submarine, Surcouf in 1/350 scale.  My plan is to put this model into a water scene and not worry about finishing the lower hull.  However I've been wanting to try ship hull weathering and decided this would be a good opportunity to practice.  This turned out to be a very interesting journey and I'm looking forward to sharing what I learned with you.

In addition to my hull weathering journey, I'll be sharing historical information with you about this crazy submarine.

I also picked up some tweezers that I'm really liking.  I was looking for a pair of tweezers that e'rent a super sharp point.  These have an angled flat end, have very little if any lateral movement, and a super nice feel.  I'll bring them to the meeting so you can give them a try.

If anyone else has something they want to share during the meeting let me know and I'll add it to the agenda.

As always, please bring....

• Any challenges you need help with
• Any new kits or tools you've acquired.
• Any started or completed models you would like to share with us.

Bob Smith cap replacements

Hi all, I forgot to include information on the Bob Smith CA glue cap replacements.  I bought them from Model Merchants.  You can get a pack of 5 and you can pick out the colors you want too.

Thanks to everyone that came out for Saturday's meeting.  As usual we covered a lot of territory.

We started with a discussion on Mission Models paint.  I've heard a great deal about these paints.  They've been very well received.  Here's a Link to their web site.  If you read the section under FAQ's you'll find how they believe you should spray their paints.  The manufacturer claims that their paint is a modern formulation.  At their site you can see their most current color offerings.  Interestingly they suggest that you only thin their paints by about 10%.  Although you can ready where they recommend thinning more.

Some basics about this paint.

• The paint comes in 1oz plastic bottles.  Thinner and Polyurethane additive comes in 2 oz plastic bottles.
• It is water based paint.  
• Because water based paints tend to be more fragile than lacquers, enamels, and non-water based acrylics, they recommend adding several drops of their polyurethane additive to increase durability.
• Like most paint manufacturers they recommend using their thinners.  That is a good call but if you don't have them use water.  Do not use windex, etc.
• Currently colors are designed for aircraft and armor.  However they offer a variety of colors that may be suitable for other subjects such as naval, space, etc.

John Miller from Model Paint Solutions recommends their paint and if you go to their site at this Link you'll see that they recommend painting much thinner.  As much as 80% to 90% for painting fine lines, 70% to 80% for modulation, and 60% to 70% for general painting.  John also recommends using a few drops of acrylic flow improver to keep the airbrush from clogging and to give the paint time to self level.  As mentioned before, John is writing a paper on his airbrushing at high altitudes.

I gave the paints a test with a fun subject, a B-17F Egg Plane.  This was a fun one.  I couldn't leave well enough alone.  I added 1/144 B-17F decals of the Memphis Belle (movie version) and also detailed the engines, bomb bay doors, nose antenna, bottom turret, and mast.  Sorry, I couldn't help myself. 😎

My experience here in Colorado with this paint was the following with this paint...

• If you thin at 80% to 90% for fine line painting (drawing fine lines with your airbrush), I couldn't dial the pressure back enough for it to atomize properly.  If I held the airbrush further away from the model it would dry off a little while airborne and work, but that defeats the purpose of fine line painting.  I used a .2 needle on my Harder and Steenbeck airbrush.  A 1.5 needle may delivery better results with heavily thinned paint.
• I found that 30% thinner worked pretty well on average.  Different colors may require slight differences in thinning.
• Building up layers in thin coats is recommended.
• Like Tamiya, Mission Models paint can be hand brushed.  
• I used Stynylrez primer and that worked well as a base coat.  I have not tried Mission Models primer yet.
• I found the paint leaves a very smooth finish when sprayed in thin layers.
• I recommend using the polyurethane additive to to improve the durability of the paint.
• I found that on the Stynylrez primer the paint DID NOT lift when removing masking tape.
• Mixing different colors works very well.  They offer basic colors so mixing a special color is easily accomplished.
• The clear finish I tried required more thinning.  When I sprayed it initially with only 10% thinner, it clogged rapidly on my airbrush needle and left a pebbly finish.  I have not tried hand brushing the clear coat yet.    
• Clean-up is very easy using the 50% denatured alcohol (window cleaning type found at Lowes) plus 50% Windex WITH Ammonia.  Also note that this cleaning mixture does a great job of cleaning Stynylrez primer from your airbrush.

Conclusions:  I think this is a very good paint to work with.  It is durable when using their Polyurethane additive and flows extremely well when adding a few drops of acrylic flow improver.  It cleans up easy.  It's a healthier product than enamels or lacquers.  It's reasonably priced and available at Colpar and online sellers.  Highly recommended if the colors and type of paint are right for you.

Next up, John DuGene gave a nice talk on the challenge he faced addressing a seam on corrugated material.  John ultimately used different sizes of sanding cord to restore the leading edge.  While not a nautical theme this is a material and technique that could be used in any type of modeling given similar challenges.  Excellent model John!

Sanding cords are traditionally used by woodworkers.  It comes in a variety of sizes.  The most common I found was from Mitchell Abrasives.  You can find it from the manufacturer, Rockler, or Amazon.  It comes in a variety of sizes and grits.  Here's a Link to the manufacturer's home page where you can learn about the different sizes and types available.   

Next under challenging circumstances, Bill Smallshaw gave a stellar presentation on Early Missile Cruisers.  Bill covered the three types of missiles and the ships they were attached to.  We received some excellent detail about the effectiveness of these systems.  Bill also did some excellent research and found kits of these subjects.  Sam Bartlett supported Bill by bringing in some of his kits, some of which were quite rare.  

Below are kits from NIKO models and the newest release from Blue Ridge Models of the USS Boston.  

The following is the list of kits from Bill's presentation covering this subject.  Thanks Bill for putting together this great presentation!  

§Revell

§USS Canberra CAG-2 1/480

§USS Boston CAG-1 1/480

§USS Long Beach CG-9 1/508

§USS Chicago CG-11 1/500

§Niko 1/700

§USS Canberra CAG-2 1967

§USS Springfield CLG-7 1970

§USS Galveston CLG-3 1968

§Jag 1/700

§USS Long Beach CG-9 1960s

§USS Albany CG-10

§Cyberhobby 1/700

§USS Long Beach CG-9  1980s

§USS Long Beach CG-9  1960s

§USS Albany CG-10

§Iron Shipwight 1/350

§USS Long Beach 1/350

§USS Albany 1/350

§Orange Hobby 1/350

§USS Boston CAG-1

§Jim Shirley 1/700

§USS Chicago CG-11

§Renewal 1/500

§USS Galveston 1/500

§USS Springfield CLG-7 1/500

Finishing off, Hugh Letterly brought in the model of the USS Shenandoah 1925 that he received from David Angelo, owner of Loose Cannon East.  This is the perfect companion piece to David's USS Patoka.  The Shenandoah is a resin kit available delivered for $55.  You can pick up the Patoka for $75 delivered.  David's web site is back up at this Link.  You can order directly from him.  Thanks for bringing this one in Hugh!  Very nice subject!  

  

Thanks everyone and we'll see you next time!

Happy New Year Ship Club!

Our meeting will be this Saturday...
Meeting Location:  Rockler Woodworking (in the basement)
2553 S. Colorado Blvd., Suite 108
Denver, Colorado  80222
Date:  January 4, 2020
Time:  10:00

Here's the itinerary for our meeting...

Bill Smallshaw will deliver a presentation on guided missile cruisers.  I've seen the slides and it looks great.  Bill is also researching model kits that he'll be discussing during his talk.

John DuGene recently experienced a challenge of cleaning up a corrugated joint.  He found a solution and is going to share it with us.  While this was learned on a winged subject, it has applications for ship building and other subjects.

I will be giving a talk about my experience with Mission Model Paints.  The good, the bad, and the ugly.  We'll also follow up on our discussion about our visit with John Miller from Model Paint Solutions.  What a scientist can teach us about paint management.

As always...

Bring any questions you have

Brining any works in progress you would like to share

Bring any of the goodies you got during the holidays!