Sunday, March 3, 2019

03/02/2019

Thanks to everyone who came out today!

The meeting started off with an update on my never ending container ship project.  The project was saved thanks to Jerry loaning me his vertical mill.  Jerry challenged me to make a video to share with the group.  Without further ado...


Only a few hundred more containers to mill out!  Save me!!  Seriously, I'm really enjoying this process!

What's been amazing about using this tool is that after all these cuts the tool has been rock solid the entire time.  I've gone through it several times to make sure everything was tight.  Nothing loose or moved.  Not even a fraction of a thousandth of an inch.  Nice tool!

If you're wondering how much these little guys cost, to buy what I was using today would cost about $1300 new.  I searched for used machines on eBay and couldn't find a single one of this design, and this design has been around for over 30 years.  Shown below is the Sherline 5500.  




There are alternatives.  For example Proxxon makes a similar mill but it's more expensive starting at $1400 without accessories.  They have a lower priced version that sells for about $400.  Not sure how the later would perform.  Shown here is the Proxxon 37110 with is the lower priced version they sell.



Most of these small milling machines can be set up for CNC (Computer Numerical Control) which is great for recreating complex cuts.  It also adds a ton of money to the cost!

For me, I was grateful to be able to borrow one!

Next I shared a new USN deck winch set from Infini Models.  Each one of these winches is a model onto itself.  They should make for a great focus point to some of my projects.  These are 1/350 scale and are already out of stock at Free Time Hobbies where I got them.  They sell for $21.00.


Next John shared with us some big 1/700 battleship kits that he acquired.  Both of these are becoming rare kits.  

First up was the HMS Colossus from Combrig models.  These are WWI era battleships.  This is a resin kit.  These were available from Free Time Hobbies at $75 but are currently sold out.


Next up is the HMS Neptune.  Also a WWI era battleship and resin kit.  Also at the same price of $75 but currently out of stock from Free Time Hobbies.  





Next John shared with us the Fujimi 1/3000 1945 REMNANT WARSHIP SET (UNRYU-CLASS/RYUHO-CLASS/HIYO-CLASS/AOBA).  Careful when you look at these because Fujimi uses the same box art on several different kits.  


John then shared with us his own harbor creation in 1/700 scale.  


Here are a couple of photographs that John shared with us.  When I asked him where they lived he explained that currently they are living on the dining room table.  





Finally John Trueblood paid a visit and shared with us a pair of float planes.  Very nice work on both kits.

The first is the 1/48 Tamiya kit of the IJN M6A1 Seiran.  This is the float plane that was carried on IJN submarines I-400, I-401, and I-402.  Each sub carried three of these aircraft.  The fuselage and wings were stored in a water tight compartment and the floats were stored under the deck.


Next was the Modelcraft UC-64A Noorduyn Norseman.  This aircraft can be configured for either land or water operations by exchanging the floats for wheels.  I found one of these rare birds on eBay in original factory sealed for $52.50.



Thanks everyone!  We'll see you next time.
Dave



Sunday, February 24, 2019

Ship Club Time!!

Meeting Location:
rockler Woodworking (in the basement)
2553 S. Colorado Blvd., Suite 108
Denver, Colorado  80222
Date:  3/22019
Time:  10:00

For this meeting I put together an entertaining video of how I resolved the ISO container dilemma.


I'm also planning on bringing the jig I made for stacking the containers and with any kind of luck some completed stacks.

If anyone has any presentations they would like to make, please let me know.  I will be bringing my computer as normal.

As always....

Please bring any questions you might have...
Any projects you're working on...
Any finished models you would like to share...
And any new kits or tools you have added to your star... er... collection.
And if you would like to sell anything from that collection, feel free to bring it.

Speaking of which, Brian has expressed interest in selling a Revell 1/72 Gato kit.  This is an exceptional model.  If anyone has interest please contact Brian.



Thursday, February 7, 2019

I really enjoyed our meeting.  We covered a lot and I'll do my best to provide a recap...

First, John DuGene provided an excellent presentation on his visit to Eduard in the Czech Republic.  It was fascinating to get an inside look at how this company produces all their various products.  Below are some of the key figures at Eduard.  Below is John speaking to the use of CAD drawings in producing all the wonderful products Eduard makes for us.




Next up.  Rodrigo was having trouble working with Lacquer automotive primers decanted and used in his airbrush.  Rodrigo has assembled an assortment of primers that you can see on the chair above next to John.  Rodrigo mentioned that he was having issues with a dusty finish.  Some suggestions were that the coats might be sprayed from too far away or that some some vortices might have been created while spraying.  Both legitimate issues but hard to know without being there.  In any event I thought It was time for a primer challenge and to help get Rodrigo back on track.  Right now I'm kicking myself because I can't put my finger on the samples I made of Stynylrez, Tamiya Fine Spray, and Tamiya Liquid Primer.  When I find it, I'll add it in.  It will show up eventually...  In the mean time here's a quick recap on the three challengers and how they performed...

Test was made on a blank piece of Evergreen styrene.  I added some panel lines and rivets to see how the primers would cover.

Tamiya Liquid Primer
This comes in gray and white in the bottle shown below.  It is mostly alcohol based.  It can be brushed on like a Mr. Surfacer, or it can be thinned 50/50 with Tamiya Lacquer Thinner (the one with the yellow lid) and sprayed.  I chose to spray it.  I found that it sprayed well and dried thin.  Of the three it ranked 3rd in finish.  I was not able to remove any of it with masking tape.  It sanded beautifully.  This is a very acceptable primer.  Available at Sprue Brothers for $4.99



Tamiya Fine Surface Primer
I bought the white because I heard good things about it.  It can be decanted but I chose to spray directly from the can.  It comes in gray, white, and pink.  Instructions are to spray light coats.  This is good advice as a single pass puts down a large amount of paint.  It covers beautifully.  The finish is almost a satin and is incredibly smooth.  I also tried pulling it up by applying tape but none removed.  It also sanded beautifully.  Of the three it was probably the thickest, but did not cover up the panel lines and rivets in the sample.  I would rate this second only because it was slightly thicker finish than the other two.  Also an extractor is a very good idea because of the smell.  The ingredients list includes Alcohol, Acetone, and a lot of things that start with "B" that are very nasty.  Still a very acceptable primer.  Available at Sprue Brothers for $9.99


Stynylrez
I've been using Stynylrez for a while now.  It is water based and sprayed through an airbrush with no less than a no. 2 needle and 30 psi or more.  It's a little thicker in viscosity.  No matter what you see on the internet DO NOT THIN OR INTRODUCE ALCOHOL to this paint.  Thin only with water. Clean up the bottle only with water.  This primer sprays thick and covers extremely well.  When it dries, it sucks down to the surface with no loss of details.  I also tried pulling it off with tape and no primer was removed.  It sands beautifully as well.  It also comes in many colors.  I would recommend cleaning your airbrush with Windex as this paint sticks to surfaces extremely well, and that includes your airbrush.  

This primer does not like the cold.  Order it only in warmer months.  I would highly recommend ordering it directly from Badger.  They are familiar with the cold issues and they will make sure you get good product.  Also they will stand behind it and replace if something goes wrong.  This would be my favorite of the three and I think it performs that way as well.  Available from Badger through Amazon in 4oz bottle for $14.71.  They are also available in 2 oz bottles.


I'm anxious to hear how Rodrigo gets on with any of these three primers.  They are all excellent and all have their advantages and disadvantages.  

Next up we had a discussion on masking.  The group was challenged to share ideas on how they mask their models.  Specifically masking decks and dealing with all the fixtures that are typically molded into them.  

Roger brought an example of how he masked around round items using small squares.  Also using strips of thin tape by Micron.  

Jerry brought his circle cutters and some tape samples.  He also brought Infini cutting mats which are durable plastic with deep laser engraved lines which you drag your knife blade through to cut different shapes and sizes of tape.  You can cut circles but I found that larger circles work better.  The come in 4 different styles (A,B,C, and D).  Infini cutting mats run around $15 each and available from a variety of providers.


I attempted to use large punches but found that on the larger punches the tape didn't cut cleanly.  I have been successful using my smaller punch sets with Tamiya style tapes.  

Roger Schafer game an excellent presentation on how he approaches masking a deck.  





Blake's contribution brought a lot of attention.  Blake uses a homemade formula for liquid mask.  Here is the original article he shared with me.  

Here are Blake's comments on mixing and using the mask based on conversations with Martin and me.
This is the orig recipe from the book I found it in years ago, as you can see it's not real specific.
That said, what's worked for me is basically a ModelMaster paint sized bottle filled about 2/3 - 3/4 full with Elmer's white glue. To that add about 4-5 drops of really any liquid dish soap & a few drops of food color in whatever color you prefer. You can add more color if you want it darker, or more glue to lighten it up. I've found it can get too dark, which makes it hard to see detail under such as canopy frames etc.
Brush on & let dry until it turns from opaque to transparent, you'll be able to see the difference as it dries. I've found it's best to coat & cut in the same sitting if possible, as the material is still just a touch pliable. If it sits for 2 or 3 days it dries harder & doesn't cut as well. If you find it difficult to remove, add a few more drops of soap.
You could play with adding more soap & see if it works toward making it easier to release, I've never worked it one direction or the other as far as how much soap to add, or not add. It is a tight mask however & usually I can work the tip of a blade under it sideways somewhere to get the initial lift.
I forgot to mention earlier that I've found it's best to cut the mask preferably within a few hours of application. The material seems to harden a little after sitting 2 or more days. If the mask has been cut, leaving it a few days until you paint isn't a problem, but I've found when cutting it after a few days, it's not as pliable & is more rigid. Not to the point of cracking or shattering the edge, but definitely not as pliable as when freshly applied. Again, though if an area is damaged it can be softened, conformed &/or resealed with a damp brush to the mask material, but the straight edge will usually need re-cut because it never lays back down in the perfectly straight original cut line. The result of an over dried mask material is usually when you press a blade down on a curved surface(again as in the top of a canopy over a pilot's head) the material will pop up/lift off in a semi-circular shape perpendicular to you blade. It always seems to pop in a half circle shape. See attached crude drawing.
Bottom line I find it best to apply & cut in the same sitting if possible.
On ship decks however, I think I can count on one hand the times I've had to trim the making material with a knife. Decks & deck fittings can usually be accurately masked by brushing. Once I get all the details masked with a fine brush, I use a flat broader brush to go back & mass apply material to large areas.

Small areas I paint with a "0" or "00" brush & depending what I'm working on that's usually good enough (ie around exhaust stacks on say a Spitfire or Mustang) On high vis things such as the Mustang canopy I brought & the Sopwith, I use a sharp #11 X-acto.
For crisp corners I try to cut by rolling the blade from its base to its tip when I can, so the corner is cut by the very tip in that rolling motion & there's no cutting by dragging the blade. Dragging works fine for most cuts, but corners I've found are best not pulled. If a corner does pull up or away, a damp fine tip brush will usually work to get it back where it needs to be & sealed. On flat canopies such as a P-47 Razorback the "rolling" doesn't work so it's just a matter of cutting via dragging the blade. I always, always though use the roll method over the top curve of a canopy (above the pilot's head) it give the quickest, cleanest, straightest cut.
One last thing, if your blade strays, or you get something crooked, or a corner pulls up while you're cutting, again, just take a fine tipped brush with a dab of water(more damp than wet) & simply brush over the area & you can fill in or "heal" the cut. After it dries a few minutes, you can simply re-cut that section without having to do it all again. Of course if it's just bad all around, you can rinse it off, re-coat & start over no harm, no foul.
As far as the X-acto. I didn't have the fancy knives that Jerry turned us all onto when I did what you saw, but even so, I still think a #11 is probably the best bet for this. The long blade gives greater roll/cut distance & the thin tip is great for corners. Also I have probably 10+ X-acto handles of different types & I always use the lightest, most comfortable for the cutting. Some handles are like Cadillacs, some are like sports cars... I prefer the sports car for this process.
One thing I always wanted to try, but never have is a curved X-acto blade. I'm not sure the blade number, but I always reasoned they would allow you to roll cut on a flat surface. I have kind of an unlimited supply of #11 blades, so have never gone out & bought the curved. 
When working with a brush you'll find you need to clean the brush regularly while working because the material starts to dry & the brush gets gloppier... Is that even a word? 


I mixed up a batch and tested it myself.  What I found is that you overlap the mask line and use a sharp hobby knife to trim the mask along a panel line, canopy frame, etc.   Remove the excess mask material.  I found that it I left it overnight it was more difficult to remove.  So trim and remove as soon as it's dry.  Remember as Blake said if you can't get it up use water to lift it away.  Thanks Blake for sharing this tip with us!

On to show and tell!  
John brought in a finished 1/700 Midship Models Gridley class destroyer.  This was a new one on me.    I looked around but was unable to find this kit in the usual places including eBay.  John reports that it was a nice little kit but the deck guns were out of proportion.



John shared a 1/2000 scale dry dock scene available on eBay.  It's made from wood and resin.  This will set you back about $16.99 and includes free shipping.  A great little scene for your 1/2000 Arizona!  





John also introduced us to a line of 1/700 kits from Artist Hobbies and I think John has all  8 of them.  They are very interesting models of Roman, Chinese, and Korean ships.  They run about $25 each and are of resin and photo etch.  They look like they could be fun little kits!



Victor brought in some 1/350 Oerlikons from Black Cat Models in France.  These are 3D printed resin and look very good for this scale.  Victor even commented how you could look through the sites.  This will be a nice upgrade for the kit he's working on.  Twelve of these will run you about $10.00.  






Bill Smallshaw brought in a model he was missing from his collection.  It was the 1/700 Grayback complete with Regulus missile.  It filled out a missing part of his collection and it was already finished and ready to display!  


John also shared with us a some masking paper that he got from Tru-Color Paint out of Phoenix.  John had used it to mask a model of the V-2 by Pegasus models.  The resulting finish looked superb.  Three sheets of this run about $5.00.  




Roger shared with us his Iwata cleaning kit that he scored with a 40% discount coupon from Hobby Lobby.  The set included a wonderful little wrench for removing the paint nozzle that may be worth the full value of the set to Roger.  The retail price is $34.99 but can be bought with the discount coupon for $21.01.  

Bringing up the tail I brought in the new drydock kit from Snowman in China of Drydock No. 1 in Charleston.  This is an historic fixture of that naval ship yard.  Snowman did a wonderful job with this kit.  You may remember that John Widmar brought in the Snowman 1/700 Gearing class destroyer which was waterline.  Snowman created this dry dock set for this model and included the hull bottom.  Interestingly enough the running gear was included in the original waterline kit which leads one to believe that Snowman planned to release this in two parts from he beginning.  Sneaky!  Most any 1/700 full hull destroyer will fit.  It would be cool if there was a 1/700 USS Constitution out there since she spent several visits to this dry dock.  It's very detailed and a nice way to display your model.      It also comes with a nice little booklet with the history of this famous dry dock.  This kit is available from Free Time Hobbies for $22.95.  


I also came across this new model from Black Cat Hobbies located in France.  Same place as where Victor got his Oerlikons.  This is a model of a 1/144 83' US Coast Guard Patrol Cutter.  I've never heard of these boats before but learned that they served during D-Day.  This resin model is beautifully cast and has remarkable detail.  It can be built in several different configurations.  It's also available in 1/350 scale.  This was clearly created with CAD drawings.  It's available for $57.72, and the 1/350 kit is available for $19.21.














Monday, January 28, 2019

Hello Ship Club family
It's that time again and we have a full agenda again.  But first the usual information...

Meeting Location:
Rockler Woodworking (in the basement)
2553 S. Colorado Blvd., Suite 108
Denver, Colorado  80222
Date:  02/02/2019
Time:  10:00


John DuGene is going to give us a presentation on his trip to Eduard in the Czech Republic.  Eduard is a dominant player in the after market world and has even produced some nice upgrade parts for ships.  I'm really looking forward to John's discussion.




Next up we're going to discuss some of the challenges of masking decks.  I'm looking for lots of participation on this one.  Can everyone think about how they mask their decks and paint them?  Some things we'll want to talk about are...

  • Commercial mask sets as shown above?  Have any of you tried using them?  What was your experience?
  • Tools for cutting tape to fit complicated areas on the deck.
  • What kind of tape do you use?




Rodrigo contacted me about some trouble he was having with automotive primer sealer.  He ended up with a dusty finish.  I'm to blame here because I've used this product before for priming my models.  Have any of you had similar experiences?  I know Hugh prefers the filler primer of the same brand.  Rodrigo also asked me about Tamiya primers.  I haven't used these before so I'll try to put together a sample using Tamiya rattle can, Tamiya bottle, and my current favorite Stynylrez.   I would love to hear you all share your experiences with these products.  

I'll have an update for you all on my container ship project.  We're on the right path now!

As always, bring...
  • Problems you're having with your project
  • New additions to your "collection"
  • Projects you're working on
  • Finished models.  We love finished models!
See you all Saturday!



Thursday, January 10, 2019

I almost forgot about the AFV Club LST kit that I brought.  And look what AFV Club made just for me!  A detail set!!!

I know, I know... Focus!  back to the containers!!  So many containers!!



Sunday, January 6, 2019

Great to see everybody again.  

I began the meeting discussing my dilemma with 1/700 containers for the Colombo Express.  My idea of making disposable jigs and using sanding sticks/Dremel tool to square up the bottoms where the pour blocks were was not going to work.  I could not get a perfect flat bottom.  I think you can see in this picture that this container is slightly bowed.  



As they stacked the ability to stay square became progressively worse as you can see.  These should be flat across the top.  This clearly won't do!  So much for plan A.


Thanks to Jerry I have a better solution which is working well.  I'm now using a vertical mill to shave off the bottoms of the containers to make perfectly flat bottoms.  
I tried it after the meeting and it's doing the trick.  Here's the little beast.  This is an expensive tool,  but using this or something similar is key to getting this right.  I'll either bring this to the next meeting or have a video demonstrating how I used it.



Next Victor brought in his 1/350 Russian 1904 Tsesarevich Battleship.  This kit is from Trumpeter and they make it in two versions, 1904 and 1917.  Although it gave Victor some fits, as we've come to expect he mastered it.  Beautiful model Victor!  



Roger treated us with his work on 1/700 Corsairs.  Roger used some great sets from Starfighter Decals.  He used paints from some Vallejo model air sets which left an excellent sheen.   Roger set up his models on an assembly line basis and then went down the line duplicating the markings on each aircraft.  As you can see they came out amazingly well.  





John DuGene shared a 1/350 Type VIIC U-Boat that he's been working on.  John took a photo etch set designed for the Revell kit of the same type and scale.  It's really bringing this kit to life.  



Maximo shared with us his wood cruise ship.  Rodrigo advises that the two of them are working on some other ships.  We'll look forward to seeing those!



Bill shared with us a very nice book on the US FRAM program.  It's in Germany and Bill advises that there is a translation floating around on one of the modeling web sites.  Bill advised the he'll put together a presentation on the US FRAM program.  We'll look forward to that!


Same shared his lates project that he's working on.  A 1/700 US "S Boat" class submarine kit.  Sam had some excellent photo references of the prototype.


Kit hull plus the scale drawings he's working from.  



Martin finished up by telling us about his Christmas trip to Sweden where he visited the Vasa museum.  The Vasa was a famous 17th century sailing ship that sank on her maiden voyage.  Much has been discussed about this ship and why she sank.  It was interesting to get the Swedish take on what happened as relayed by Martin.  Hopefully I'll be able to visit this museum someday.  


See you all next time!






Tuesday, January 1, 2019

Greetings Ship Club and Happy New Year!  My wife and I just returned from vacation in Palm Springs so I apologize for being a little late in getting this out.


Meeting Location:
Rockler Woodworking (in the basement)
2553 S. Colorado Blvd., Suite 108
Denver, Colorado  80222
Date:  01/05/2019
Time:  10:00

So I have a dilemma.  I've been working on the containers for my 1/700 container ship.  I created some jigs and have been using my Dremel tool to square up the bottoms.  I've been pretty much eyeballing it but my biggest issue is grinding away the jig itself.  Clearly I need another answer.  I think Jerry's going to help me with this one and we'll talk about it at the meeting.

I'm anxious to see what Santa brought you all!  I have a few things related to some of our recent presentations that I will be bringing.

If anyone has something specific they would like to discuss let me know and I'll share it with the group.

As always, if you're like me and dealing with some modeling dilemma, let's see if we can help you with that.

Otherwise, please bring new tools, kits, etc. to share with the group.

See you Saturday!
Dave